Crack Addicts (not so) Anonymous
Aug. 31st, 2010 05:11 pmOver on Dreamwidth, Toft has posted about discovering the crack that is Mercedes Lackey (specifically, Valdemar).
It's prompted an outpouring of squealing fangirl love in the comments -- I suspect it's mostly fangirls, though there may be the occasional fanboy in there -- with frequent deployment of CAPITAL LETTERS to properly channel the commenters' sentiments. I'm in there with them; I, too, was once a twelve-year-old girl, and Lackey's books once occupied a beloved position on my bookshelf.
Some of them still do. When I packed up to move to California, one of the things I did was go through our bookcases, pulling and re-reading out the things that were there because I'd loved them when I was in junior high. The idea was to say farewell, to squeeze out those last, precious drops of nostalgia and then free up shelf space for books that are, well, better. In a few cases, though, the nostalgia was still going strong -- and those books, I kept.
Understand, it's not that they're good. It's that they're crack, and furthermore crack which, for whatever reason, still has the power to affect me. Yes, Vanyel is Emo McAngstyPants, and THAT'S WHY I LOVE HIM. The fact that Dirk and Talia and Kris refuse to have the one simple conversation that could end all their suffering is not a FLAW, it's WHY I SHOWED UP FOR THE BOOK. Drizzt Do'Urden could give Vanyel a run for his money on the emo front, with bonus chunks of unadulterated inner monologue OF WOE (plus awesome fight scenes!). David Eddings may be writing the same series over and over again, but in the Belgariad/Malloreon instance it's a series that features smartass characters being smartasses to one another and I could watch that ALL DAY, YO. And Robert Jordan . . . well, I dumped his books because they take up too much damn room, but I'm making up for it in other ways.
And you know, there's something wonderful about seeing people admit their love for crack, whether it's stuff they adored in childhood or just picked up recently. So have at it in the comments: what do you love, not despite its ridiculousness, but because of it?
This is officially a SHAME-FREE ZONE; no need to preface your comments with "These books are so bad, but --" That part goes without saying. Just tell us what books you adore, against all reason. Unleash the power of your caps-lock key because lowercase letters AREN'T ENOUGH TO CONTAIN YOUR LOVE. Admit your addiction to emo soulbonded sparklepony hurt/comfort Mary Sue wish-fulfillment CRACK.
You know you want to.
It's prompted an outpouring of squealing fangirl love in the comments -- I suspect it's mostly fangirls, though there may be the occasional fanboy in there -- with frequent deployment of CAPITAL LETTERS to properly channel the commenters' sentiments. I'm in there with them; I, too, was once a twelve-year-old girl, and Lackey's books once occupied a beloved position on my bookshelf.
Some of them still do. When I packed up to move to California, one of the things I did was go through our bookcases, pulling and re-reading out the things that were there because I'd loved them when I was in junior high. The idea was to say farewell, to squeeze out those last, precious drops of nostalgia and then free up shelf space for books that are, well, better. In a few cases, though, the nostalgia was still going strong -- and those books, I kept.
Understand, it's not that they're good. It's that they're crack, and furthermore crack which, for whatever reason, still has the power to affect me. Yes, Vanyel is Emo McAngstyPants, and THAT'S WHY I LOVE HIM. The fact that Dirk and Talia and Kris refuse to have the one simple conversation that could end all their suffering is not a FLAW, it's WHY I SHOWED UP FOR THE BOOK. Drizzt Do'Urden could give Vanyel a run for his money on the emo front, with bonus chunks of unadulterated inner monologue OF WOE (plus awesome fight scenes!). David Eddings may be writing the same series over and over again, but in the Belgariad/Malloreon instance it's a series that features smartass characters being smartasses to one another and I could watch that ALL DAY, YO. And Robert Jordan . . . well, I dumped his books because they take up too much damn room, but I'm making up for it in other ways.
And you know, there's something wonderful about seeing people admit their love for crack, whether it's stuff they adored in childhood or just picked up recently. So have at it in the comments: what do you love, not despite its ridiculousness, but because of it?
This is officially a SHAME-FREE ZONE; no need to preface your comments with "These books are so bad, but --" That part goes without saying. Just tell us what books you adore, against all reason. Unleash the power of your caps-lock key because lowercase letters AREN'T ENOUGH TO CONTAIN YOUR LOVE. Admit your addiction to emo soulbonded sparklepony hurt/comfort Mary Sue wish-fulfillment CRACK.
You know you want to.
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:21 am (UTC)Belgariad/Malloreon TOTALLY. They bring joy and warm fuzzies to the depths of my happy fantasy-loving soul. And he could rewrite the entire series AGAIN from any other perspective than the original and I would SO read it.
Redwall. ADORE. I could read all day long and just keep on going.
And I officially declare that my absolute OBSESSION for the glorious Earthsea books and Wrinkle and Time with it's two sequels (I know there's more, but it's the trilogy I love) and ANYTHING at all of Zenna Henderson's People stories is not crack at all. It is recognition of the virtues of their awesomeness. I love the characters and the situations and the wonderful SENSAWUNDA of it all. I could drown in those books and die happy.
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Date: 2010-09-01 03:15 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:28 am (UTC)And speaking of emoangsty MarySueishness, let me just say...Laurell K. Hamilton. Yes, I went there. Anita Blake didn't start out cracky, but it has become so. Holy shit, the Merry Gentry series was nothing but crack from the start.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:32 am (UTC)What can I say? I was in high school, and these were the books that spoke to me. Apart from some Charles de Lint and the odd book by Pamela Dean or Emma Bull, there really wasn't any great urban fantasy, and absolutely nothing like the 'splosion we have now. And yeah, I read David Eddings and Piers Anthony, Jennifer Roberson and Katherine Kurtz, Patricia Kennealy (before she added the -Morrison and went kinda fruitcake on her blog readers), Tom Deitz...
Holy crap. I just realized that in listing all the stuff I read and loved in that period, I haven't read any of it in years. For most of those authors, I haven't read anything they've done in years, even decades.
I also read the Forgotten Realms books like they were candy. Also some of the other TSR novels, back in the day. I still have stacks of them, those that I couldn't even give away to a used bookstore, those that survived the last round of basement flooding.
My greatest period of WTF was I thinking, my greatest bafflement, was, without a doubt, the time in college when I collected the Freshman Dorm series. Nothing can explain how I lasted 21 books in that. I apologize for nothing, but I really have no idea what young me was doing.
Oh, Young Me. Your tastes were so weird, but I understand, it was the '80s and '90s and the options were what they were. To this day, I have a deep and unyielding love for Pamela Dean's Tam Lin, Emma Bull's War For The Oaks, Mercedes Lackey's Arrows of the Queen, and Simon R. Green's Blue Moon Rising. Someday, my collection will be organized enough that I can go back and give some attention to the books which made me happy back then.
No I did not have a high school crush on Talia she just needed lots of hugs and understanding and we could have been best friends shut up you can't make me admit a thing and don't look at me that way and I didn't think Alanna was made of win either SO THERE and now I shut up.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:06 pm (UTC)It's dangerous going back to these loves, because a lot of them lose their shine when viewed with adult eyes. (On the other hand, there's such glee in finding the ones that are still cracktastic fun.)
Eeee, Forgotten Realms! Mostly it was the dark elf books I adored, but also Azure Bonds with its ridiculous magic armor and oh I'd forgotten about Dragonbait who was totally an AWESOME PALADIN FROM ANOTHER PLANE or whatever, and I loved the Harpers series, too.
Freshman Dorm . . . ?
Re: Talia and Alanna -- totally! Minus the crush part on my side (I reserved that for the guys), but otherwise, WORD.
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:34 am (UTC)That and I have her fairy-tale books (the 500 Kingdom set, not the Elemental Masters set, though I was pretty fond of those...). The romance still usually makes me want to throw them occasionally, but I do like fairy-tale retellings and the fact they usually have competent female leads. And elemental magic. I love me some elemental magic.
Add in Simon Greene's Nightside books, which I kind of like for being very kitchen sink and sort of... oh, I can't describe it. Something about the tone -- maybe I just love me a smart-ass narrator.
Lilith Saintcrow was is this category with her Dante Valentine series, but it was one of those where she wasn't focusing on the aspects that interested me so I ended up dropping it. Ilona Andrews scratches the post-magic-came-back itch pretty well, though.
if we get into comic books, I can dig out the shoujo comics that I always want to bring up, but feel embarrassed, because it feels like western fandom will perpetually dis shoujo, especially elements that don't involve attractive men. But I love me some magical girls, and coming-of-ages stories involving girls, and Plucky Heroines with their Best Friends... actually the romance is hit or miss, which is why I tend to gravitate towards the fantasy/SF shoujo. It's a sad fact that you have to pitch a series towards women/girls to have a female lead, or in a role as something other than The Chick or The Vague Love Interest Person. So I have Prétear and Basara and just bought Library Wars, and wish I could get a hold of Sailormoon.
* The buddy cop dynamic usually has this covered.
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:46 am (UTC)They're totally bad for you with no nutritional content whatsoever, and yet, so very tasty. Like street vendor hot dogs. Mmm, hot dogs.
Green's one of my very favoritest authors ever. No question about it.
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:38 am (UTC)I can't stomach Feist anymore (tried a few years ago) and Brooks and Eddings make me cringe just a little, but I have undying affection for their books because the memories they conjure are so strong. And Jordan... what can I say? I have to find out what happens next. :P
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:39 am (UTC)Echoing the above commenters, my early Laurell K. Hamiltons are still there (I finally gave up on both series a couple of years ago, but the early Anita Blake books are great reads), as are my Redwalls. And a battered boxed set of the original Dragonlance trilogy (two, in fact; one's my husband's), and the Legends box set, too.
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:45 am (UTC)As for my crack series, I realize I'm being terribly unoriginal, but the Twilight Saga. It speaks to the angsty teenage girl in me, and every now and then, you need to feed that inner teenage girl :)
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Date: 2010-09-01 01:08 am (UTC)Also the Alanna series, which I read until the covers fell off. I just recently read her Trickster books, and really enjoyed them.
WHAT ELSE. HMMM. The Phantom of the Opera - the actual book. And the sequel someone else wrote - Erik, I think it's called. LOTS MORE EMO.
And the Dealing with Dragons series, which probably doesn't deserve to be classed with the aforementioned because they are actually pretty fun and kickass. Cimmorene FTW. Ditto on Patrica Wrede's Mairelon the Magician books (Kim the thief and an absent minded professor) and Wrede/Stevermer's Sorcery and Cecelia set (epistolary kink! pretty dresses! balls! and also some pretty cool magic!).
Oh my god. I could be here all night.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:20 pm (UTC)Wrede is totally not crack, she's GREAT. Cimorene was one of my role models as a kid, and I still think she's a pretty good one now. Because everyone needs to learn fencing and Latin! (Though I cannot, sad to say, cook cherries jubilee.)
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Date: 2010-09-01 01:22 am (UTC)And there's that nearly complete stack of Amethyst comics on the second shelf of my bedside table . . .
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:21 pm (UTC)Firebrats and Amethyst, I do not know. Share!
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Date: 2010-09-01 02:15 am (UTC)For crack...
ANNE.
FUCKING.
BISHOP.
They are big fat angsty books with characters being tortured and a sort of antifeminist feminism and also Lucivar, who is so dangerous they stopped using him as a pleasure slave and has wings, and Daemon, who is basically the embodiment of sex, in the sense that the little-death he gives you will probably kill you. Saetan SaDiablo, seriously, that is his name, is the High Lord of Hell and vicious and not quiiiite as dangerous as his mirror-son. Jaenelle, the central character of the books, at one point turns off the sun to make it clear that no, you do not get to tell her what to do. And there is a woman who everyone knows is a prostitute who makes most of her money by killing people, and a really cool way of showing madness-- I need to steal the Twisted Kingdom somehow-- and really biiiig kitties.
And magical cock rings.
And the opening scene involves a man trapped in a box with bacon grease smeared on his genitals to attract rats.
'Comfort violence' comes closest to describing it, I think.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:23 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 02:58 am (UTC)I second whoever said Redwall. And, y'know, because it deserves to be said: Harry Potter. I am obsessed with Harry Potter. That stuff is ADDICTIVE.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:25 pm (UTC)Harry Potter, definitely addictive. (And not afraid of the caps-lock key.)
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Date: 2010-09-01 03:19 am (UTC)Mercedes Lackey books: like angsty popcorn for the soul.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:26 pm (UTC)And yes, I think that's a great deal of the pleasure in reading about such horrible things happening to characters: it puts your own life into perspective.
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Date: 2010-09-01 03:26 am (UTC)The Lensmen series. No, it didn't age well, and OMFG the sexism, but who cares? It had really alien aliens, mental powers, sexy men, and I really, really wanted to be the children of the genetically engineered children.
I add to the Anne Bishop fan girl squee for anything in the Dark Jewels world. The men are...*fans self* (Her other works are hit or miss. Mostly miss, sadly.)
Here's a true guilty pleasure: Sharon Green, The Blending series. Lemme be honest: these books stink badly. The main characters manage to be two dimensional on a regular basis, but all the other characters can sometimes craw up to one dimensional. The world building is naive, and the plotting is sophomoric. And I could NOT put them down. Maybe it was the train wreck quality. I don't know. I just read them over and over again.
The last cracky book series that I've got is Lorna Freeman's Borderland. I love Rabbit. He's just too awesome.
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Date: 2010-09-01 12:30 pm (UTC)I skipped the haunted house book, but I've read most of the rest. Still like the courts and the jewels and the people with wings and also yarbarah.
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Date: 2010-09-01 03:42 am (UTC)Honestly, I can't remember what kind of crackfic I read in high school. There must have been some, along with all the obsessive rereading of everything Heinlein ever wrote, and the glorious discovery that Zenna Henderson wrote lots of stories, not just the one that was in the anthology I first found a People story in.
In college, though -- that's when I was reading the Deryni novels by Katherine Kurtz, and the Darkover novels by Marion Zimmer Bradley, and the Sime/Gen novels by Jacqueline Lichtenberg, and Anne McCaffrey's dragonrider books. Not to mention every bit of Star Trek fanfiction I could get my hands on. Not to mention first reading LotR, which doesn't count as crack, but I read it just as obsessively the first seven or so times.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:25 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 03:53 am (UTC)Recently I ran across a book that hit all those similar buttons--super-special but unknowing young hero that everyone admires! Cat people! Magical lands and secret kings and all that jazz, with absolutely nothing kept back or hidden. If the character angsts, it's on the page and someone's handing him a tissue. It's so much fun. Covenants by Lorna Freeman. All about her super special young soldier named Rabbit.
That aside, there's some nifty bits of magical mythology in the book that I quite admired.
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Date: 2010-09-01 04:39 am (UTC)The thing I like the best is that yes, he's super powerful and too gifted for his own good, but damn, is he screwed. Michelle Sagara does the same thing in her Cast series. Her heroine is very much super powered, and damn, is she screwed.
As a writer, one of the other things I appreciate about the Borderlands books is that Lorna Freeman does talking heads better than anyone else I've read. And she doesn't hesitate to have her character say "Long story!" 'Tis hilarious.
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Date: 2010-09-01 04:09 am (UTC)Utter HORRIBLE crack.
Jack Reacher is a towering Aryan-man mountain who is Ex-Army military police who walks across the land and has adventures. Usually involving massive amounts of improbable physical violence and a pretty woman who can't resist his plain looks, lack of speech and physical perfection.
Oh! And he doesn't exercise, he's figured out the optimum way of DOING EVERYDAY TASKS to enhance his musculature.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:36 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 04:41 am (UTC)David Edding's Belgariad series, Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality - including the Author's Notes - omg - and the Blue Adept series - although the first 3 were *much* better than than second trilogy.
The early Anita Blake books, for sure...they've gotten so bad though now that I borrow them from the library and won't even buy the paperback - same with the Merry Gentry series.
Anne Bishop, as others have said, pure cracktastic angsty wondrousness.
Her books remind of the Michele Sagara series the Sundred which were dark and angsty and were out of print for so very long, but are available again!
All my poor books are in storage...so it's hard to visualize what would be on my shelves if I got to unpack them...but on the *new* authors of cracktastic guilty pleasures - J.R. Ward, omg...I HATE that they're in hardcover now because I just cannot allow myself to buy the hardcover so I have to WAIT!
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Date: 2010-09-01 10:52 am (UTC)I did love Ann Mccaffrey, though - just the dragon books, and only the first six and the three prequels (Moreta the most though, I read it first and there was lots of death and a tragic ending.)
The other one, I'm not sure if it qualifies as crappy enough to be crack, but E E Knight's Age of Fire series, about the dragons; from the point of view of the dragons instead of the angsty mary sue dragon riders. They don't have riders, and frequently eat people.
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Date: 2010-09-01 03:42 pm (UTC)My favorite was Randall Garrett's Lord Darcy series, which had magic "talent" substituting for science and posited a scientific method for dealing with magic spells. There were also benevolent aristocrats and broad-stroke alternate history. (He dumped the same two paragraphs into every story about Richard I living an extra 20 years and founding a Franco-British empire.) While it didn't have angsty adolescents, it did have a Holmesian detective with a title. Who was always right, but only because he took the advice of his trusted sorcerer companion. I have no idea why there isn't a ton of slash about these two, actually. It was a print story series that peaked too early, probably.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 04:33 pm (UTC)Plus that wonderful heroic historical fiction the 19th century produced, Felix Dahn, Sir Walter Scott, Alexandre Dumas, Sigrid Undset, etc.
But the worst sort of crack are - in case there's a German reader here - Karl May's Münchmeyer novels. *grin*
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:44 pm (UTC)Tell more! I've never heard of those.
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Date: 2010-09-01 05:36 pm (UTC)Feist and Eddings were crack for a short period of time, but Feist has become virtually unreadable, and Eddings lost his luster rather quickly. Jordan? Still hopelessly addicted. I'm actually really jonesin' now that another one is almost here.
LKH is another who was crack there for a while and then went totally off-the-rails. Most boring "erotica" ever, and, sorry, I just don't find guys with hair that long sexy.
Simon R. Green = TOTAL CRACK! As oneminutemonkey said, they're everything and the kitchen sink, and I love it. I will say, though, I don't think they're totally devoid of nutritional content; I think he does love and sacrifice really well.
Jim Butcher is a God, and I hate waiting a year between each book.
I was a total Agatha Christie junkie when I was a kid. I still am, kinda, in that I'm slowly gathering all the DVDs of the Suchet Poirots and the Marples, but I got rid of the books because they took up too much room. Plus, she's pretty much one author you know will never go out of print, so I knew I'd just buy them all again anyway, someday.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:45 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-09-01 06:06 pm (UTC)I liked Menolly's abused child angst, because hey, I was an abused child with angst, and I really needed a book that told me that it was possible to escape your abusers and horrible repressive environment and go somewhere where people would appreciate you for being exactly who you are. And as it turns out... that IS true.
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Date: 2010-09-01 07:47 pm (UTC)(And I might have had a brief crush on Piemur SHUT UP I WAS TWELVE.)
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Date: 2010-09-01 10:48 pm (UTC)I'm not ashamed I'm also an Anita Blake fan. Though the last few books... I want my plot back darnit. Though supposedly she's going to bring back Edward soon. ♥
Though as you can no doubt tell from my icon, so much NOT THAT EDWARD. I refuse to get into a discussion about THAT BOOK, I have issues. So very many issues.
Though I will admit to being in it for the snark and lulz. I mostly go to
cleolinda's journal for all of that. Omg help, I can't stop, it's just too painful.MZB's Avalon series. I know quite a lot of people can't stand her with a fiery passion, yet Mists was a turning point for me. I go back and read all of them at least once a year.
The Vampire Diaries. One of the first vampire books I owned, and the tv show is a goddamned trainwreck. One that just WILL. NOT. STOP.
Christopher Pike's The Last Vampire books. Again - OMG TRAINWRECK.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer novels. I mostly own ones written by Chris Golden and Nancy Holder. Recently found another one, actually, though I haven't had time to read it yet. I'm not much for fanfic (not anymore anyway), yet I seem to have a soft spot when it comes to my Buffy.
VC Andrews and Danielle Steele. DON'T JUDGE ME. I tried Nora Roberts, and while I like some of her plots, I jsut... yeah. I'll come out and say it though - if you're going to write a sex scene, please, for the love of all romance writers, don't give me that crap. Make it graphic. All the innuendo, it hurts my brain.
Dan Brown, Phillipa Gregory, and because it has to be said - HARRY POTTER.
Ok, I'm done, heh.
ETA: FEAR STREET. They are so very very hokey now, but OMG. I still luff them. I can't help it.
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