but unfortunately you need something really, truly awful to push Tyrion over the edge during the trial, so that he says "fuck you all" instead of trying to stay alive. If he sent Shae away, I don't know what you would use for leverage in her place.
I haven't been watching the television show. Given the overtly romantic rapport between Tyrion and Shae and her greater prominence in the plot, I was also hoping the show would avert her murder, but quite plainly it didn't. I agree that she has to be part of the trial, but I was still hoping she wouldn't get strangled.
[edit] Huh.
"It's also worth mentioning Shae is one of the characters that really has changed significantly from the books to the TV show. I think that [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss] wrote Shae very differently, and a symbol to Sibel Kekilli—the incredible girl playing her. Shae is much more sincere in her affections for Tyrion. This is almost contradictory, but with the Shae in the TV series, you can tell she actually has real feelings for Tyrion—she challenges him, she defies him. The Shae in the books is a manipulative camp-follower prostitute who doesn’t give a s–t about Tyrion any more than she would any other john, but she's very compliant, like a little teenage sex kitten, feeding all his fantasies; she's really just in it for the money and the status. She's everything lord Tywin thought Tyrion's first wife was that she actually wasn't. So there are all layers of complexity going on here. They're the same character, but they're also very different characters, and I think that's going to lead to very different resonances playing out in the TV show than in the books."
That's according to Martin. I have to say that my impression of Shae from the books was not just a manipulative sex kitten taking Tyrion for everything she could get; I had the impression she was a more complex and more favored character on the show, but not that Martin viewed them as diametric opposites of one another. (Or that he viewed book-Shae as the mocking negative of Tysha.)
In this book she kills somebody that I think is tangentially related to some plot or other -- I honestly can't remember -- but not, like, Roose Bolton or somebody I really want to see go.
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Date: 2014-10-04 05:27 am (UTC)I haven't been watching the television show. Given the overtly romantic rapport between Tyrion and Shae and her greater prominence in the plot, I was also hoping the show would avert her murder, but quite plainly it didn't. I agree that she has to be part of the trial, but I was still hoping she wouldn't get strangled.
[edit] Huh.
"It's also worth mentioning Shae is one of the characters that really has changed significantly from the books to the TV show. I think that [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss] wrote Shae very differently, and a symbol to Sibel Kekilli—the incredible girl playing her. Shae is much more sincere in her affections for Tyrion. This is almost contradictory, but with the Shae in the TV series, you can tell she actually has real feelings for Tyrion—she challenges him, she defies him. The Shae in the books is a manipulative camp-follower prostitute who doesn’t give a s–t about Tyrion any more than she would any other john, but she's very compliant, like a little teenage sex kitten, feeding all his fantasies; she's really just in it for the money and the status. She's everything lord Tywin thought Tyrion's first wife was that she actually wasn't. So there are all layers of complexity going on here. They're the same character, but they're also very different characters, and I think that's going to lead to very different resonances playing out in the TV show than in the books."
That's according to Martin. I have to say that my impression of Shae from the books was not just a manipulative sex kitten taking Tyrion for everything she could get; I had the impression she was a more complex and more favored character on the show, but not that Martin viewed them as diametric opposites of one another. (Or that he viewed book-Shae as the mocking negative of Tysha.)
In this book she kills somebody that I think is tangentially related to some plot or other -- I honestly can't remember -- but not, like, Roose Bolton or somebody I really want to see go.
Well, fingers crossed.