An open letter to dog owners
Nov. 13th, 2013 12:41 pmThis post has been brought to you by the behavior of a very large dog at the post office today.
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Dear Dog Owners of America:
Please train your dogs.
To those of you who actually do, I say, thank you! I appreciate your effort, and your dogs are probably lovely creatures. Unfortunately, you are in the minority, and the other dog-owners and their pets are making you look bad.
It used to be that whenever the Great Pet Debate came up -- dogs vs. cats -- I found myself wondering, why don't I like dogs more? After all, the qualities ascribed to them sound great. I liked Platonic Dogs very well, but Actual Dogs much less, and I didn't know why.
Then I realized that was because the majority of the Actual Dogs I meet are badly behaved.
They bark. They bite. They chew on stuff. They jump on anything and anyone they can get near. No, their "enthusiasm" is not adorable. In small dogs, it's annoying; in large dogs, it can be outright dangerous. You know what's adorable? A dog who knows how to express his enthusiasm in a socially acceptable fashion. Which is to say, a dog who is trained.
And no, a dog who brings the ball back when you're playing fetch and sits (sometimes) on command is not "trained." If you have to drag your dog down off the counter of the post office, your dog is badly trained and badly behaved. If he barks for a minute straight every time the doorbell rings, he is badly trained and badly behaved. If you have to bribe him with treats to get peace and quiet during dinner, he is badly trained and badly behaved. If he draws blood through my clothing because he tried to jump on me and his claws went raking down my thigh, he is badly trained and badly behaved.
A well-trained dog is one who knows how to behave like a civilized member of society.
I have met far too few of them in my life.
So please. For the love of god. Train your dog. Teach him when it is and is not okay to bark. Teach him to show enthusiasm with tail-wagging and jumping in place, not on people. Do not reward his bad behavior by giving him commands and then, when he ignores them, rewarding him with whatever it was he wanted. You owe it to your dog to be consistent, to give him a framework within which he can operate and be happy. And the rest of us would appreciate it very much.
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Dear Dog Owners of America:
Please train your dogs.
To those of you who actually do, I say, thank you! I appreciate your effort, and your dogs are probably lovely creatures. Unfortunately, you are in the minority, and the other dog-owners and their pets are making you look bad.
It used to be that whenever the Great Pet Debate came up -- dogs vs. cats -- I found myself wondering, why don't I like dogs more? After all, the qualities ascribed to them sound great. I liked Platonic Dogs very well, but Actual Dogs much less, and I didn't know why.
Then I realized that was because the majority of the Actual Dogs I meet are badly behaved.
They bark. They bite. They chew on stuff. They jump on anything and anyone they can get near. No, their "enthusiasm" is not adorable. In small dogs, it's annoying; in large dogs, it can be outright dangerous. You know what's adorable? A dog who knows how to express his enthusiasm in a socially acceptable fashion. Which is to say, a dog who is trained.
And no, a dog who brings the ball back when you're playing fetch and sits (sometimes) on command is not "trained." If you have to drag your dog down off the counter of the post office, your dog is badly trained and badly behaved. If he barks for a minute straight every time the doorbell rings, he is badly trained and badly behaved. If you have to bribe him with treats to get peace and quiet during dinner, he is badly trained and badly behaved. If he draws blood through my clothing because he tried to jump on me and his claws went raking down my thigh, he is badly trained and badly behaved.
A well-trained dog is one who knows how to behave like a civilized member of society.
I have met far too few of them in my life.
So please. For the love of god. Train your dog. Teach him when it is and is not okay to bark. Teach him to show enthusiasm with tail-wagging and jumping in place, not on people. Do not reward his bad behavior by giving him commands and then, when he ignores them, rewarding him with whatever it was he wanted. You owe it to your dog to be consistent, to give him a framework within which he can operate and be happy. And the rest of us would appreciate it very much.
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Date: 2013-11-14 06:31 am (UTC)a well-behaved animal is one
- that you can medicate easily and that you and professionals can give vital healthcare to
- that people will be happy to look after if you have to go away or go to hospital
- that can be rehomed easily should you fall ill or become allergic to or be deployed overseas or simply run out of funds to keep (happening more often to horse owners)
- will not endanger, or will endanger to a much smaller degree, visitors and and additions to your household: babies, elderly relatives etc
Quite apart from the quality of life you gain in daily life by not being bitten, knocked over, or having to stand in the rain for hours calling your dog, the 'people will be happy to look after your animal' one is a big one, because everybody gets sick at times, and almost everybody might want/need to take a family vacation where they can't take the dog along. (Funerals several states away, for instance.)
[in other news, some of the comment form text shows up as white on white. This is suboptimal.]
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Date: 2013-11-13 10:54 pm (UTC)I've been attacked by dogs on and off leash, once with the owner standing right there, not calling the dog back, but yelling at me to stop kicking dog/defending myself as the dog snapped at my shins.
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Date: 2013-11-13 11:05 pm (UTC)That? Is genuinely cute. :-)
A bark or two at the doorbell is fine. (Where I'm living right now, it would be outright helpful, since the doorbell is anemic and difficult to hear from upstairs.) A bark or two to say "I need to go outside" or whatever is also fine. Constant barking to say "I want attention I want attention I want attention"? Is not fine.
The owner who yelled at you . . . yeah. Such people have their priorities extremely messed up.
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Date: 2013-11-14 12:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-11-14 12:06 am (UTC)At least he doesn't jump on people anymore though - he's over the most crucial stuff. It's mostly walking and he sees a rabbit and runs off after it, nearly tearing my friend's leash arm off. And even that's gotten better. They had to get a muzzle for him, not because he was vicious, but because it gave them more control over his head to pull him up faster. They don't need to use it anymore though, he's improved that much. Eventually I think they'll have him at a point where he forgets less.
Some dogs certainly are harder to train than others, but not near so many as there are dogs who just aren't trained at all, and if you have one of those dogs that's hard to train, you *really* need to work at it. Training is part of having a dog, as much as feeding it and letting it out to pee.
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Date: 2013-11-14 12:10 am (UTC)Exactly. And mad props to your friend for putting in the effort to reform the dog -- it's all the harder when they didn't get it young, and grew accustomed to bad habits.
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Date: 2013-11-14 12:12 am (UTC)Being greeted like that by a dog is sort of like being hugged. Some people like hugs, and welcome them from pretty much anybody they know. Others don't. Would it be polite to throw yourself at everybody, assuming that surely they'll be glad to get a hug? Not remotely.
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Date: 2013-11-14 12:13 am (UTC)A very well behaved whippet.
Anything less than that, leash it.
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Date: 2013-11-14 12:16 am (UTC)That's more than you likely need for your average household pet, but it's still a good thing to aspire to.
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Date: 2013-11-14 12:21 am (UTC)I wish more owners were like you.
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Date: 2013-11-14 01:17 am (UTC)I've had rounds with my neighbor, who walks her dog on one of those extension leashes that lets the dogs run its full length. She was ticked my dogs were barking at her dog. I did point out that her dog was charging around in the middle of my yard at the time, completely out of control, while my dogs went back to the porch on command, but she didn't consider that relevant.
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Date: 2013-11-14 05:55 am (UTC)My pet peeve is people who drive in their cars with their dog on their laps in the driver's seat. You would NEVER sit your infant or toddler on your lap while you drive - what makes you think having the damn dog hanging half out the window is a good idea? Especially after reading one blogger who reported being in a car crash, and admitting that her dog on her lap distracted her at a crucial moment - thank GOD she didn't kill or injure anyone else!
I also agree dogs should be on short leashes. My boss had 2 dogs that he would bring to the office - they had things they did that were not things I would have allowed, but they followed him around like they were attached - I called them his velcro dogs. And - if they were in the office and I had to go out to check the mail, I had no qualms at all about saying to them 'boys, let's go check the mail' - and they'd happily follow me out of the office, down the stairs and outside - and I had ZERO worries that they'd take off on me. They stayed close, sniffed around in the grass and would come immediately when called.
Sadly neither of those dogs are still around - and his new dogs - I love them, they're cute - but I wouldn't take them ANYWHERE without a leash - I don't have the confidence that they'd come back to *me* when called.
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Date: 2013-11-14 07:00 am (UTC)Crates seem to be mainly an American thing, from what I can tell, and they puzzle me. Over here, the only reason most people would crate a dog would be if he is injured and must not move other than under supervision. Other than that, you'd shut a puppy overnight (and for short periods) in a place like the kitchen or the basement or the mud room where there isn't much to destroy and the floor is wipeable; some people's dogs spend the night in dedicated rooms, others are shut out of the bedroom or have free run of the house... and the dog is expected to behave, not destroy anything, and complain when he needs to go out.
Then again, I wonder whether crates are indoor extentions of kennels. I've seen *that* happen, though not recently: the dog is allowed inside as long as he behaves or unless the owner gets tired of it, after which he is shut into the kennel again until the next time the owner feels like interacting with them. And those were badly behaved dogs, no surprises there. (My partner tells the story of someone local who got a 'big, nasty Alsatian' and kept him chained in the yard. One day a burglar came... and took the dog.)
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Date: 2013-11-14 04:36 pm (UTC)I have no problem with the dog that keeps barking at the door until the human Alpha is there, even if that takes a minute or two. That's what they're supposed to do for the pack: Maintain guard until Alpha determines that the potential danger is past. That's not the same thing as growl at and menace a courier (missionaries... go right ahead), especially if the dog shuts up when Alpha is at the door.
The other objections I agree with. Of course, much of the time the problem is that the owner hasn't been trained!
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Date: 2013-11-14 09:00 pm (UTC)...i would like to contrast this to my impression of cats, which is that they will do one of several things: run away immediately. bite you (including your face). let you pet them for a bit before biting or clawing you. very, very rarely will they actually seem to enjoy attention from you and not hurt you for it. and unlike dogs, i don't think the owners can do anything about this :(.
*and seriously screw people who don't pick up their dog's poop. that requires no ability or training whatsoever on the part of the owner, just a willingness to make the world less gross for other people.
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Date: 2013-11-14 11:46 pm (UTC)I'm with you. What I don't get is why that's so hard for some dog owners to understand!
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Date: 2013-11-15 12:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-11-15 01:15 am (UTC)The amount of information that is sheer BULLSHIT about working with dogs is astounding, along with the kind of nonsense you get when you hear someone talking about training their labrador retriever or golden and assuming that training a beagle or greyhound is the same. The breeds ARE different in how they react to stimuli and so it's harder to train some than others. However, everyone who tells people it's the same means you get people stuck trying to keep their beagle's attention for longer than five minutes when they have NO IDEA what they're doing.
I greatly disagree with a number of points in this post because the primary problem isn't -lack of training- it's -lack of information-. Many of these issues - not all, because God knows door manners are exhausting to teach - can be ameliorated by explaining IN SIMPLE TERMS basic loose-leash walking. NOT HEELING.
They'll also be helped if people GREET DOGS PROPERLY. That is the number one thing that aggravates my sister's dog, because people - ESPECIALLY DOG PEOPLE - DO NOT LISTEN OR ASK.
The state of "most dogs" nowadays is a problem best solved by people actually HELPING EACH OTHER rather than posting negative things like this that remind people already exhausted by their dogs and, likely, family life and work too, that they're failures.
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Date: 2013-11-15 02:59 am (UTC). . . it sounds like you've known a lot of very badly-socialized cats. They can't be "trained" in the way that dogs can, but they can absolutely be socialized to interact with humans in a better manner than that. I can count on one hand the number of pet cats I've met (as opposed to feral) who will really lash out; most will only do it if a human has made it difficult-to-impossible to run away.
To be fair, really interacting well with any animal is made easier if you understand the physical language of that animal. I can make friends with cats who will run away from most people because I speak Cat. I recognize that I don't speak Dog very well; my husband does it much better.
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Date: 2013-11-15 03:08 am (UTC)I agree that some of this can be mitigated by behaving properly toward dogs. But given that my default behavior toward them is "ignore them and stay away from them," I don't think that's the root of the problem here. They're the ones throwing themselves at me, not the other way around. In fact, very few of the behaviors that bother me the most are a response to aggression (except insofar as entering their territory is "aggressive").
If most dogs were badly behaved, we couldn't keep them.
Only if the threshold for calling it "bad behavior" is high enough. What I see is a high tolerance for behavior that I think can and should be trained away.
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Date: 2013-11-15 03:13 am (UTC)Actually, I think the primary problem is the lack of will to do it right. I believe you that there's a lot of misinformation out there, but I also know how many friends and family members I've seen not really bother in the first place. And with strangers, their response to their dog's bad behavior is often to laugh it off as "cute."
They'll also be helped if people GREET DOGS PROPERLY.
My method of greeting a dog is to stay the hell away if I can, but if the dog comes up to me, try to offer my hand to sniff. Sadly, this does not save me most of the time.
The state of "most dogs" nowadays is a problem best solved by people actually HELPING EACH OTHER rather than posting negative things like this that remind people already exhausted by their dogs and, likely, family life and work too, that they're failures.
This seems to have hit a sore spot for you, and I'm sorry for that.
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Date: 2013-11-15 03:15 am (UTC)I'm sure there are people who use crates in exactly that way. I've definitely known people to stick their dogs in the back yard for extended periods of time, though not necessarily in a kennel.
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Date: 2013-11-15 06:46 am (UTC)Which puzzled me, because I am used to dogs, when your attention is elsewhere, doing their own thing - they might play, sleep, wander around, occasionally check in to see what you're doing and whether you're up for a walk/some play, and then walk off again. That, to me, is 'living with a dog'. (And yes, occasionally you go 'the dog has been very quiet, what are they up to?')
And I can see how it will be very, very difficult to maintain a threshhold once you *have* a crate: just what is a situation that warrants crating the dog? Every time you leave the house? Leaving the house for an hour or more? Doing something where you absolutely cannot be disturbed and where you will not have attention left over for your dog should your dog do something destructive in another room?
But here's the thing. If somebody crates a dog overnight and crates the dog when they're going out to work (even if someone walks the dog at lunchtime) then that dog is going to spend sixteen out of twenty-four hours in a place they can just about turn around in.
And you wonder at meeting badly-socialized dogs?
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