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swan_tower ([personal profile] swan_tower) wrote2011-05-03 03:57 pm

Sirens programming

So a) I'm going to Sirens again, and b) once again, I have no idea what I should do there, programming-wise. This year's theme is Monsters, but I'm not sure what I could do on that topic; on the flip side, while I don't have to stick to that topic, I'm not sure what I could do off it, either.

Any suggestions from the peanut gallery? Workshops, panels or roundtables I could try to recruit other people for, whatever. The deadline for proposals is May 7th, so I need to figure out something soon.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2011-05-03 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Want to come in on a panel on female monsters in anime and manga with [livejournal.com profile] coraa and me? If so, email me and I'll share a brainstorming google doc. Rphoenix2 at gmail.

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2011-05-03 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. My knowledge of anime and manga is narrow -- but otoh, if that panel would be an appropriate time to talk about the "women with swords inside them" motif, I'm totally game.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2011-05-03 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
We're trying to keep it slightly narrower than "any women with magic or superpowers." We're thinking along the lines of non-human, or society sees them as monstrous, or they see themselves as monstrous, or they look really weird, something like that.

Are you familiar with any of these:

Fullmetal Alchemist, Claymore, Fruits Basket, Spirited Away, Soul Eater, Mushishi, Afterschool Nightmare? Or any others with monstrous women?

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Only Spirited Away, out of that list. What I'm familiar with mostly consists of: Rurouni Kenshin, X:1999, Tokyo Babylon, Ooku, Cowboy Bebop, Shoujo Kakumei Utena, Miyazaki's films, and small amounts of Le Chevalier D'Eon and Princess Tutu. None of which seem to do the monstrous-female thing much.

By "women with swords in them," I'm interested in the way those women don't have magic or superpowers -- they're just the sheaths that contain weapons for others, and the weirdifying effects of that -- but yeah, it doesn't seem quite in line with your topic. Alas. :-(

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
...why don't you do your own anime panel? I'm sure there's enough interest for two.

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
See above about my knowledge being very narrow. I don't really know the field well enough.

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
What about a panel on fight scenes? (As opposed to the workshop you did last year.)
ext_84300: Paper's for wimps (FMA: Riza in charge)

[identity profile] esotaria.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
they're just the sheaths that contain weapons for others

I would love to see/participate in something about that! (Anime/manga related or otherwise) I see it pop up in a lot of the stuff I read/watch and it'd be interesting to explore it further.


Also, if you ever have time, I highly recommend reading Full Metal Alchemist! Amazingly complex plotting and a diverse array of strong female characters.

[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I also wholeheartedly recommend Fullmetal Alchemist. Alchemy, martial arts, family relationships, complex moral questions, a tightly-woven plot, and a diverse group of SERIOUSLY kickass female characters.

The first anime is good, but I think the SERIOUSLY kickass female character quotient kicks up a few notches in the manga.

[identity profile] starlady38.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Butting in to say that I'd love to be on the panel, if you're still looking for people and you'd want me. Should I send you an email?

[identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sure!

[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
I was actually just thinking you'd be great for it.

[identity profile] cepetit.myopenid.com (from livejournal.com) 2011-05-04 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
How about "people as monsters"?

Or you could go all anthropological and discuss the relationship between unconscious racism and nonhuman monster races.

[identity profile] ninja-turbo.livejournal.com 2011-05-04 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Along this thread, it could be time to bring in the 'Fish in a Barrel' critique of depictions of Drow as the gaping black hole of otherness.

[identity profile] whaddayameandoihaveroomfordessert.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com) 2011-05-05 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
hey! me too!! dammit, i really need to put together some kind of panel or roundtable already. i'm on a publishing-related panel already, but i was thinking a biographical presentation about historical female sff writers (playing off the line in POSSESSION that the "monster" is the female writer ;).

drop me an email if you happen to want to collaborate. i'm happy to NOT do something publishing-related (or to do something publishing-related, either way). or i'm ALWAYS good for a WoT-fest, as well you know. email is juliet.grames@gmail.com (no pressure)

[identity profile] whaddayameandoihaveroomfordessert.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com) 2011-05-05 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
oh i could also easily/happily do a japanese-related thing. japanese monsters? japanese women sff writers?

[identity profile] shveta-thakrar.livejournal.com 2011-05-08 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
You're coming, too? Wheeeee!

[identity profile] shveta-thakrar.livejournal.com 2011-05-08 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yay! Can't wait to see you there!

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