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Continuing my effort to clear out my Firefox tabs and my brain, let's talk about usernames.

[livejournal.com profile] yuki_onna posted about this a little while ago, and I have to say I'm on her side. But first, let's talk about the original poster's argument.

I feel like pretty much everything he says can be turned around from a positive into a negative. True, on Facebook you don't have the problem of signing up only to find your customary username has already been taken. Instead you have the problem of signing up with a name that's maybe shared by 7,142 other people. An improvement, or only a differently annoying issue? Also, he says you don't have to use your real name, just a name -- but hang on, isn't that essentially the username thing all over again, except without the restriction that it must be unique? And maybe a requirement that your chosen name has to come in two parts (e.g. Pony McRainbow). If you can still use a made-up name, you still have the problem he describes, of realizing belatedly that somebody you know in person and somebody you know online are actually, y'know, the same person.

But that has an easy fix. If you want your legal name associated with your pseud, put it in your profile or wherever. If you want to keep them separate, you can.

Which is part of Cat's point. Facebook wants you to use your real name (and other real information) so you can be more effectively tracked: pinned down, advertised to, your information sold to third-party vendors, linked up with things you never intended to touch. Oh, so you're the Melanie Dunn whose grocery purchases swing erratically between Hostess snack cakes and green vegetables (better sell you some diet aids!), who's a registered Democratic voter in Kansas (do your neighbors know?), whose medical history shows a procedure at a particular doctor's office three years ago (and we can guess what that was). So when you go posting on your blog about how you think bigots should get over the whole Islamic community center thing, rest assured people will have an easy time connecting that with your weight and your political activities and the fact that maybe you had an abortion. Aren't you glad they know who you are?

False names, whether unique usernames or non-unique pseudonyms, can protect people.

But you know, even if that were taken out of the equation, I'd still like usernames, and my reason is the other part of Cat's point. Choosing a username is an act of identity creation -- one we don't often get to do in modern American society, or (so far as I'm aware) in other high-tech nations. Your parents pick your name, without any input from you, and changing it is a legal hassle. Nicknames are generally assigned by those around you, though you can try to show up to college or your job in a new city and sell people on the idea that while your name is William, usually you go by Bear. We have very few opportunities to choose something that reflects who and what we are, or want to be -- or we did, until usernames came along and gave us a whole new field to play in.

The fantasy writer in me can't help but think about the mystical power of names, and how the process of choice invests them once more with a whiff of that power. They have meaning. How is that not cool?

Is the meaning sometimes stupid? Of course. You may get to a point where you're embarrassed to be known as shake_that_bootay. But unlike Aschlyee, who's embarrassed by her parents' enthusiastic leap onto the bandwagon of "let's find a totally new way to spell this name!," you can put it behind you pretty easily. You can escape your party-hard high school years, major in Classics, get involved in radical politics, and rename yourself alecto_reborn. Then, when you're tired of being a Fury, go into the business world, and settle down as dahlia_blue.

There have been times and places in the world where that sort of change was normal and expected, where having six names by the time you died was nothing unusual. (Read the Romance of the Three Kingdoms if you don't believe me.) We've reinvented a form of that here, and I for one like it.

Celebrate your username! Tell me the story of why you chose it, whether you're tempted to change it, and if so, what to.
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Date: 2010-09-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneminutemonkey.livejournal.com
I guess I really am a child of the online age. I grew up on BBSes and Prodigy, GEnie and Usenet, as everything was exploding in all directions.
I've gone by a number of identifiers over the years. When I was young and foolish and mucking about local BBSes, it was Penguin, in honor of my love of Opus from Bloom County. When I hit GEnie, it was Everbard, which sounded nifty and evocative and suggested my love of stories. (That name still lingers in my primary email addresses....) For quite a while in some of the online communities I frequented, I was Peregrine, a name I picked from a name book which I liked for its sound and memorability.

Then I came to Livejournal, and once again, I needed a name. By that point, I was, strangely enough, slightly embarrassed by the Everbard name, and ready to move on. I never actually thought LJ would last, and me with it, so I threw something together out of thin air. Inspired by a book I'd seen at work, I took the title "The One Minute Manager Meets the Monkey" and compressed it into the snappy, strange, memorable Oneminutemonkey. I've been slightly embarrassed by it ever since, but it's as much me as any other name. I'm occasionally tempted to move on, to change it to my real name or something, but it's nice having the identity.

I tell you, the weird thing was, for years I could go to cons and no one would know who Michael Jones was, but they'd sure as heck remember Everbard from GEnie....

Oneminutemonkey may be silly and frivolous, but it does stand out a little, and I can invent a thousand different stories behind its meaning and origin. "Oneminutemnonkey: when you don't have an infinite amount of time for an infinite amount of monkeys" or some such.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zunger.livejournal.com
Quite an interesting post. :) I'd add one thing about the name-changing matter which has been troubling me of late: however much you attempt to maintain anonymity, a sufficiently motivated attacker will generally be able to tie your identities together. It may be as simple as noting lots of common relationships between the two potentially separate people, it may be as technical as noting that posts from the two people tend to come from the same class C subnets or as intricate as doing textual analysis of the two people's written corpora to see that they have the same verbal tics, but at this point it would take an extraordinary effort -- one probably beyond the practical reach of individuals -- to avoid any linking by a sufficiently determined attacker.

Now this is true of any sort of security, which is why you always have to start out deciding on your threat model -- what kinds of attackers you expect and care about, and how far you're willing to go to deal with them. But it takes on a different slant in the case of trying to separate identities for a few reasons.

First, your textual and activity-record output is permanent and dispersed over the whole Internet; it's simply not feasible to clean it up, much as the EU regulators would like to mandate that. Too many people know too much. This means that if you want to tighten your security in the future, forget it; the level of separation you get is the min over all levels you've ever wanted over time.

Second, the technical ability of others to do these comparisons is increasing rapidly over time. Textual analysis to determine authorship used to be the province of a few hyperspecialized scholars, who did things like tracking forged insertions into the epistles of Paul. Nowadays it's something which any CS undergrad can learn to do. (Thus the fate of "Richard Bachman") And more complex comparisons, involving combining multiple types of data (text, IP addresses, web history, etc) are accessible to anyone with the information. So a level of paranoia which produces one level of identity separation now is unlikely to produce the same level of separation in the future -- and mixing that with the first point, this means that as time goes to infinity, identity separation goes to zero.

And third, there are more and more people doing identity merging on seemingly disparate net identities, many of them for perfectly "ordinary" reasons. You want to be able to look up a person's name on the Internet? Well, the algorithms that determine that "Norma Jean Mortenson," "Norma Jean Baker," and "Marilyn Monroe" all refer to the same individual are the same as the ones that reveal that dahlia_blue and shake_that_bootay are the same individual. To say nothing of the number of people doing this for less-salubrious reasons. (Hi, DHS!)

So the era of being able to change identities on the Internet seems to be fading. How this plays in to various recent public discussions of identity, anonymity, and so on is an interesting question, but I would say that this is an input to the discussion. Thanks to the "ratchet effect" of (1) and (2), no amount of legislation, regulation, or public outrage is likely to have any significant impact on the long-term trend. So we're just going to have to deal with it.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zunger.livejournal.com
[Continued, due to LJ text length restrictions]

One thing which I think will come of this -- and I've seen a lot of it in my own life, as well as that of many others -- is that ordinary people are starting to adopt the strategy of celebrities, of developing a public persona similar to or distinct from one's private persona as the taste may be. My username has been fixed for pretty much my entire time on the Internet, and it's actually my last name. (A holdover from the academic age of the Net, when I first got it; one tended to use a last name, or a last name plus an initial, or [as a mark of honor, being "the" kt@ or whomever] simply ones initials) And I tend to sign pretty much everything I post in public with that username and often my full name as well. It's a good systematic way of dealing with enforced publicity; forge a public persona and make sure that one displays it consistently.

(Not dishonestly, mind you -- as people who know me in daily life probably know, my day-to-day and .net personae are pretty much the same)

Of course, this doesn't work very well in all cases, especially cases like the example you gave. And I don't have a very good answer to how to deal with that. But I want one.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonandserpent.livejournal.com
What I don't get from the "usernames are awesome!" camp is why don't you then use them in meatspace?

(Sitting at dinner doing an interview at GenCon. "Oh yeah, My name's Kevin and I do stuff..." "Oh, nice to meet you." "Sigh. Dude, that's moonandserpent." "HOLY SHIT! You're moonandserpent?! I have some of your tweets printed out and taped to my monitor!")

I'm not so much anti-user name as I am anti-using your real name (or A real name) is inherently bad. I realize I swing farther towards radical transparency than most (currently trying to line up sponsors to turn my biometric information into a live 24/7 searchable feed) but I don't understand why the User Names are Awesome stance doesn't go both ways.

The internet won't grow up until people understand that anonymity isn't guaranteed as a baseline. It is attainable, just like I can walk outside in a mask, but it's not the baseline. And it'd be nice if people could learn from the net and shake off their hidebound cultural conditioning and go ahead and pick names they like.

*grumble*

Oh! And I'm "moonandserpent" because I didn't expect to use this thing and I had a poster for Alan Moore's The Moon and Serpent Grand Egyptian Theatre of Mysteries up over my desk. And it stuck.

Thinking about it, the ONLY people who call me Kevin, Schmidt, or some variation thereof, are folks I know from B'ton, growing up, or LARPing. Otherwise, I mostly answer to "moonandserpent" or "Lovelace."

I WISH I could change away from moonandserpent due to the Alan Moore stuff, but... alas. I'm told the old man approves, but thtat's 2nd hand and still... makes me sound fanboyish.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delkytlar.livejournal.com
Del Kytlar is a character who has been with me since my D&D days (late-80s to mid-90s). His first name is short for "Delrael", a character name I picked up from an obscure Kevin J. Anderson trilogy (one even Kevin was surprised to learn I remembered when I told him about me being Del online). I have no idea where Kytlar came from.

But, Del was my most successful D&D character, and he lasted through a lot of campaigns. Most of my friends called me "Del" periodically in those days. Then, he was reborn as a pulp sci-fi character on an author's newsgroup on sff.net, where I posted short-shorts about his interactions with other people's online avatars. Those shorts form the bare skeleton of my unpublished "Cluster Worlds" stories, from which came the name of my LJ.

I picked delkytlar as my LJ username because he was linked to me; I was actively writing his Cluster Worlds stories at the time; and there is a connection between the concept of the Cluster Worlds and my professional life (in which I have been a publisher, writer, agent, and teacher all at the same time).

Personally, while I understand the concept that people are afraid to be known for things they say and do, and often with good reason, I also think people need to own the things they say online. Anonymity removes a degree of personal responsibility. I'm not sure that's a good thing in general, even if it may be a good thing in specific circumstances.

I've never hidden my identity. My default LJ icon is a picture of myself. My name, my eponymous web address and my email address are all right on my LJ homepage. I'm me. I'm proud to be me. I'm proud of, and take ownership of, the things I say online. And, I'm Del, proud of Del, and take ownership of the things Del says online.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] landofnowhere
My LJ username is a tip of the hat to Fire and Hemlock. Also, I thought that it sounded cool and mysterious and that "The Land of Nowhere" would make a good journal title. I don't have much presence on LJ anymore, so don't really care about my LJ username, but I don't feel inclined to change it.

It's also not my username for anything else (except Ravelry, but I have pretty much no content there); which makes me feel like it's separate from my other identities (though I don't try too hard to separate them: I use this usericon on another website and it also wouldn't be hard to figure out my real name from my LJ profile). The other usernames I have on the web have more interesting stories:

My yahoo mail address (which I'm too embarrassed to name here) is an alias I made up when I was 12 (and was a modified form of a pseudonym used by a character in a fanfic). It was also the username I used on a website for young writers. Around the time I was 14 I started getting embarrassed by it, and changed the username on the website, but didn't change e-mail addresses until I got to college (since then all my e-mail addresses have been clearly my real name).

My AIM username (chosen in mid-high school) consists of my first and middle names; I think I pretty much just use that on AIM. I use my real full name on a few websites nowadays (my name is also ridiculously common, but this hasn't caused much confusion). There are also some websites where I just use my first name; those are often ones belonging to a community where many people know me IRL, or know me by reputation (though I once got asked if I was some other Alison from a different country).

I also think I know what username I'll choose if I start a blog (which would be about mathematics, and tied to my real-world identity); I've used it for a couple things so far. But that wouldn't replace my LJ identity.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
It's kind of hilarious, how many people's answer to the "where'd the name come from?" question is, "I grabbed something at random because I didn't think I'd go on using it." That was my first LJ username, actually, which was my e-mail username, which was the one they'd assigned me when I got to college, i.e. first initial and part of my last name. But it was not what you'd call user-friendly, so I switched to swan_tower.

I love the strata that can build up, as one goes through a series of transformations. (What can I say; I majored in archaeology.)

Date: 2010-09-24 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
If you mean, why don't I identify myself in meatspace as the same person who's swan_tower, I do; I've gotten in the habit of writing it on my badge at cons. If you mean, why don't I introduce myself under that name -- the context is very different, and I'd face a lot more pushback if I tried to have people call me by something they don't perceive as a "real" name.

I don't think there's anything inherently bad about using your legal name (a term I generally employ in place of "real name," you may note), though depending on circumstances it may be situationally bad.

Date: 2010-09-24 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
Anonymity is definitely a blade that cuts both ways. On the other hand, we've got abundant proof that people will say all kinds of shit online even if it is linked to a recognized name; I think the bigger cause of the loss of responsibility is that you aren't saying those things to anyone's face. There are people who would be that rude or offensive in person, but a lot fewer. (I hope, anyway.)

Date: 2010-09-24 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
And now I feel like an idiot for not guessing that was a Fire and Hemlock reference! That's the book that made me into a writer.

I hear ya about embarrassment over early choices. I've got a number of names for different contexts that I will not admit to in public. It's frankly a miracle that my pen name, which I chose when I was about ten, escaped that particular trap....

Date: 2010-09-24 08:59 pm (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (sharky classic)
From: [personal profile] ckd
My username, when I can get it, is my initials; that's a holdover from it being my choice when I was in college, and sticking with it since. This does limit my ability to "hide" my "true" identity from linkage, but as it turns out my policy of calculated ambiguity[1] still leaves many people guessing despite not-too-hard-to-find clues.

I will happily identify myself as myself in meatspace, though.

I still have a badge from the Minicon 40 LJ party with my username and this userpic, which I wear to cons; it often results in "oh, you're the blue shark!" reactions from people. I like that. (That's led me to using "ckdblueshark" as my second-choice username.)

[1] I generally fuzz things just a bit, making few to no public references on LJ to certain facts about me like my legal name, gender, and so on; it leads people to make some interesting assumptions at times. That goes back to my college days, though; I was told that I sounded like a postdoc at a time when I was still an undergrad, and decided that I enjoyed finding out what people thought of me based only on my online writings....

Date: 2010-09-24 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
You're right that actual, defensive anonymity is hard (perhaps impossible) to achieve against a truly determined attacker. My own particular level of concern has three facets:

1) I don't want companies to be automatically permitted to monetize my information. We may be able to legislate this one, though it isn't certain.

2) I don't want your average schmoe on the Internet to be able to "out" me with five minutes of work. A sufficiently advanced schmoe will be able to do it with enough time and effort, and I'm not advanced enough to stop him, but my comfort level -- which may or may not be achievable in the long run -- is one where trolls have to do some actual work to expose things I'd rather keep private. As you say, it's a matter of deciding what kind of attacker you're concerned about, and what you'll do to stop them.

3) When I wrote up that example persona, I wasn't actually thinking about sweeping the old identities into the woodchipper, never to be found. The point I had in mind was about the face you present to the outside world: this is who I am now. Like someone taking a new name when he becomes a monk. It doesn't hide who he was before entering the monastery, but it signals that he is (theoretically) trying to be a different person now.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My username (for forums, etc, since I don't have an LJ) is Quara, which is a nickname given to me in high school by a *certain* HS friend after reading Ender's Game far too quickly, and since it was basically the first non-generic name I'd ever had I've stuck with it ever since.

My real name is very common, to the point that it's almost unusable in an online context. I've never been in a class, a job or an activity where someone didn't have either my same first or last name, or both. My uncle once dated a woman who not only had the same (full) name as his sister, but who also had a daughter my age with my exact name as well (even our middle names, though they were spelled slightly differently). There's another astronomer in my organization with a very similar name, so we get each other's email all the time--we have a lot of fun with it when we meet in person, but sometimes it gets embarrassing to correct the error.

My username is such a permanent part of my online identity that I do actually use it in person when I'm meeting people from the online world for the first time, On my PO box I have my username listed as a valid name, and to many, if not all of the people I've become friends with online first, I'm known almost exclusively as Quara in real life.

For me my username gives a uniqueness to my identity--the origins of the name mean relatively little at this point, it's just the one name I can fall back on without worrying that someone else will have the same name. At one summer job there were three people with my first name, and two with my last, so I was known as Quara for 3 months.

I honestly don't know what I'd choose if I did choose a username. Probably something to do with astronomy, I guess.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I suspect that if you graphed out the anonymity thing, you'd find that early on, small amounts of effort produce large degrees of anonymity, but the further you go the more work you have to do for small improvements. In day-to-day life, it's relatively easy to stay hidden. Get somebody's attention, though, and it becomes a lot harder to fool them.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
<whistles innocently>

You're a great example of why using a unique (or closer to unique) chosen moniker can be preferable to a highly common legal name. I've been in groups where people ended up with nicknames for exactly that reason, because there were just too many Heathers or Bens or Steves.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zunger.livejournal.com
I suspect that (2) is going to become harder and harder as time goes by. (I'll tell you some history about this matter in-person sometime) The difficulty of identity detection keeps going down, and the availability of tools to do so will only lag so far behind. At some point those will even transition from being explicit, "let's find out who X is" tools to just being implicitly part of the way we look at information online. (Searching for X tells you "X, also known as Y") And that seems to change the equation of privacy in some deep kind of way.

For (3), wouldn't this person potentially want to sweep an old identity into the woodchipper? There are all the examples we keep hearing about of drunken photos of people affecting their job interviews years down the line, and so on...

Date: 2010-09-24 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alecaustin.livejournal.com
I am in favor of people having the option of anonymity or creating their own online identity, for all of the reasons you mention. Obviously I haven't chosen to exercise that option in my LJ username, but that doesn't mean I don't want it for other people. I also don't put certain kinds of information online, both for privacy reasons and because it's not anyone's business.

These days when I'm not using my actual name, I go by either Malefor or Malavaunt (character names from a novel). Before that I used to go by Leandral (character name from a MUD - my then-girlfriend used Andariel, and I didn't realize it was a Diablo II reference), and before that it was Diogenes, which kind of became a problem when I moved off of Usenet and it was always already taken.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ckd
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see it follow a Pareto distribution curve; the first bit of effort has a big payoff, then each additional bit has less and less of an effect.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kendokamel.livejournal.com
My username is a compound noun describing my passion at the time (kendo) and my name. Unfortunately, since it didn't dawn on me that people try to sound out usernames (whereas I tend to internalize them as some sort of unspoken thing - like that weird symbol that the artist formerly known as The Artist Formerly Known As Prince but who is now once again Prince used to go by), I didn't figure out until too late the importance of an underscore.

So, instead of people reading it as Kendoka Mel (i.e., Mel, who is a kendoka - a player of kendo), they apparently were reading it as Kendo Kamel (i.e., some cutsie, aliterative dromadory martial artist).

By the time that LJ allowed for username changes, however, I lost the motivation to change it, and settled for occasionally explaining it.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I still think you need an animated icon, with five frames:

KENDOKA MEL

(pic of you in kendo gear)

NOT

KENDO KAMEL

(pic of camel with photoshopped shinai)

Date: 2010-09-24 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
I've tried to err on the side of not putting information online, but the problem is, I don't know what's available without my having okayed it.

Date: 2010-09-24 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrissa.livejournal.com
Though you can't tell by my username, I do support people taking whatever username they like. (I had one person who knows me face-to-face think my first name is actually Mrissa, when in fact is is Marissa. Sigh. Silly that-person. But I go by Mris, Mrissa, or Marissa equally.)

Me, I got lucky. I am, as far as I can tell, the only Marissa Lingen in the world and both of my names are moderately spellable. This is an extremely rare combo. Most of my friends who have unique names have names that are difficult for people to spell. So while I occasionally use things like Mrissahainen and [livejournal.com profile] loyalorvokki for my own projects and purposes, my own name is likely to be a unique enough signifier that I don't have to worry about "which Mris is that?"

Date: 2010-09-24 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com
You would think my name was unusual enough to be unique.

You would be wrong.

The Orvokki thing is nifty! And I am very amused by you being Mrissahainen; that's exactly the sort of thing I had in mind, communicating something about your personality and interests. Very you, in certain ways.

Date: 2010-09-24 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zunger.livejournal.com
*grin*

And there are far worse word-separating ambiguities to have. Just ask the Pen Island chamber of commerce. :)

Date: 2010-09-24 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ailaes.livejournal.com
I too, still like usernames. They show a part of your personality, while giving you the anonymity some so desperately crave. Those who need to know who I am, do.

My original username started out as something so horrible, it will stay hidden within the depths of Internet obscurity until the end of time. It doesn't help I was a complete newb to this thing called the Interwebz.

After that, it was Rose. I have a huge thing for roses, it only made sense. Of course, I had to finiggle it a bit and make it R0SE, but that's neither here nor there. There were several variations, including the Gaelic spelling, RĂ³isin. I still use this some places.

Ailaes came about for my love of Alice in Wonderland. The 'correct' Gaelic spelling is Aileas, but I prefer the ae spelling of things.

As to my own 'real' name, it's one of those that no-one can seem to spell correctly, and my nickname makes it look like I don't know how to spell it (though how that came about is about as mundane as you can get: when I called a specific person, the last letter of my name didn't appear on the caller ID).

Sometimes I think I'm too forthright with the information I give out, yet almost every service I use (LJ, Fbook, etc.) is set to friends only. Those on that list I have no problem with knowing certain things about me. It's people I've known for years, or those whom would have no need to use this information.

Usernames are not redundant in this day and age of information overload. If anything, they are more necessary than ever.
Edited Date: 2010-09-24 10:18 pm (UTC)
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