but with that rationale removed, her death actually becomes more horrible.
It's a very different resonance!
(I agree.)
(Also, none of that explains Tywin.)
She is in Tywin's bed because it would hurt Tyrion. I don't think there's more of an explanation than that.
Okay, Sibel Kekilli has an explanation. Which, if you can accept Tywin taking her into his bed, shows a much more nuanced understanding than Shae's author of the positions in which women live when they have no power but the attention of men:
But, again, she didn't have any choice after the trial scene. The people hated Tyrion after the trial, and she had been with him. Who could she be with after that? There was one choice. She had to choose the most powerful man in King's Landing. And who is that? It's Tywin. If she wants to stay alive, she has to take that step . . . She's now at the end, where she was at the beginning before she met Tyrion, you know what I mean? Before she met him, she was a prostitute, and she started to love someone, and Tyrion started to love her. And even though she knows she's not highborn, she was hoping that she could have a family life with him if he would be stronger than he was. All this, it's like a dream which just disappeared, and now she starts again where she was at the beginning. She's again by herself, on her own, trying to stay alive. I guess people hate Shae, but every woman would be jealous and react emotionally without thinking after a man tells you, "You are a whore, you can't bear my children." Even though she is a prostitute, it was like [Tyrion was] spitting in her face, punching her in the face . . . She was low-born. She had a hard life. She had to learn how to stay alive.
Sibel Kekilli thinks very intelligently about her characters. Also, just possibly, there might be something going on here where Martin is a (white) man and Kekilli is a woman (of color). I don't know. I could be reading too much into it.
BTW, you're getting two versions of these comments because I refuse to employ my bright cheerful Summer Queen icon for a topic that annoys me this much/ :-P
No worries. The inability of LJ to fix this glitch is driving me crazy.
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It's a very different resonance!
(I agree.)
(Also, none of that explains Tywin.)
She is in Tywin's bed because it would hurt Tyrion. I don't think there's more of an explanation than that.
Okay, Sibel Kekilli has an explanation. Which, if you can accept Tywin taking her into his bed, shows a much more nuanced understanding than Shae's author of the positions in which women live when they have no power but the attention of men:
But, again, she didn't have any choice after the trial scene. The people hated Tyrion after the trial, and she had been with him. Who could she be with after that? There was one choice. She had to choose the most powerful man in King's Landing. And who is that? It's Tywin. If she wants to stay alive, she has to take that step . . . She's now at the end, where she was at the beginning before she met Tyrion, you know what I mean? Before she met him, she was a prostitute, and she started to love someone, and Tyrion started to love her. And even though she knows she's not highborn, she was hoping that she could have a family life with him if he would be stronger than he was. All this, it's like a dream which just disappeared, and now she starts again where she was at the beginning. She's again by herself, on her own, trying to stay alive. I guess people hate Shae, but every woman would be jealous and react emotionally without thinking after a man tells you, "You are a whore, you can't bear my children." Even though she is a prostitute, it was like [Tyrion was] spitting in her face, punching her in the face . . . She was low-born. She had a hard life. She had to learn how to stay alive.
Sibel Kekilli thinks very intelligently about her characters. Also, just possibly, there might be something going on here where Martin is a (white) man and Kekilli is a woman (of color). I don't know. I could be reading too much into it.
BTW, you're getting two versions of these comments because I refuse to employ my bright cheerful Summer Queen icon for a topic that annoys me this much/ :-P
No worries. The inability of LJ to fix this glitch is driving me crazy.