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swan_tower ([personal profile] swan_tower) wrote2011-04-17 11:17 pm
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A Review of the Game of Thrones TV Series Premiere, As Written by Someone Not Starting from a Position of A Priori Contempt For the Fantasy Genre

(LJ won't let me have a post title that long.)

I thought it was pretty good. The three of us watching who had read the books thought it was a faithful and effective adaptation of the source material; the fourth member of the audience, who had not read the books, said it succeeded at getting her interested, which is what you want from a premiere. Lots of good casting choices, and because it's a series, it can take the time it needs to build up the characters and the world by methods more gradual than Ye Olde Info-Dumpe.

It being HBO, of course, they were not shy about showing you the nekkid, and things that were faintly disturbing on the page become moreso when you actually see them happening. (In particular, it's hard to miss how problematic the Dothraki are.) But I didn't feel they were gratuitously amping the R-rated stuff up just for the sake of spectacle, which is my usual HBO complaint.

I definitely want to see more. Though we'll probably go the route of recording several eps and then watching them in one go, rather than doling it out an hour each week.



And that, New York Times, is how you do it. You get a reviewer who actually likes the genre to give you an opinion. Not somebody who is convinced of the worthlessness of fantasy before they ever sit down to watch the show. Please remedy this error in the future.

[identity profile] saladinahmed.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
As an epic fantasy fanatic who has a very low tolerance for 'savage hordes,' etc., I found the Dothraki over-the-top in the books, sure.

But they were 1,000 times worse in the show. Umm, why are there 'ZOMG naked-boobied Black women!' in what's essentially a hard-R-rated cartoon *Mongol* analogue!? For me it was less that it became more problematic when depicted visually, and more that the cheesy costume design, dancing, casting, etc., made the caricature 1,000 times more preposterous.

Also, Dany was totally stripped of even the problematic nascent agency she has in the wedding/consumation scenes in the books. This fact exacerbated both the episode's T&A problems and the racist Drogo problem.

Sorry, but the book is more nuanced than 'Quivering white girl raped by savage.'

All that said, DINKLAGE! And Arya! And direwolf puppies! And...yeah, I had a blast and will def be watching each week.

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been long enough since I read the books that I wasn't going to make any assumptions about how much that had been amped up. I seem to remember guys killing each other over a woman at the wedding, but on any level more detailed than that, I have no idea what changes were made, and will gladly defer to people who remember the text better.

Dany was . . . interesting. I felt she came across as weak, but the friend who hasn't read the books had a much more charitable interpretation; she said Dany came across as trapped by her circumstances but not bowing to them, and felt the character had strength that was going to become more apparent with time. So for that audience member at least, some of the nuance managed to come through -- though, of course, mileage varies depending on who's watching, and I don't expect that everybody got the same things out of that scene. It's why I'm curious to see how Dany proceeds, because I remember a lot of her strength and nuance being internal (at least at first), and that doesn't translate very well to the screen.

As for the direwolves -- heh. We were mocking the NYT review with its "they totally shoehorned in some sex because otherwise women would never watch this" b.s. It's really all about the FUZZY PUPPIES GO RAR. Direwolves bring all the ladies to the yard, yo.

[identity profile] saladinahmed.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I hope they move Catelyn from "Oh, Ned, don't go! Oh, Bran, stop climbing!" Wife/Mommy to the hard-politickin' woman of the novels. There seems to be some promise of that with the investigation of Bran's attempted murder...

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm willing to give them more time on that one. The premiere being only an hour long, there wasn't a lot of time to delve into anything, and I don't feel they mis-represented Catelyn as I saw her in those early chapters. (Later on, of course, she shows more sides, and ultimately changes . . . shall we say, quite a lot.)

[identity profile] sarcastibich.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"...and more that the cheesy costume design, dancing, casting, etc., made the caricature 1,000 times more preposterous."

This. As I was watching the women dance during the wedding scene all I could think was "its like BET channel music videos with a fantasy theme. Look, its a classic hip hop booty shake!" as they popped their ass up and down.

[identity profile] saladinahmed.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. "Khal Drogo don't see nothin wrong with a lil' bump n' grind..." Groan.

[identity profile] swan-tower.livejournal.com 2011-04-18 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good description. It did indeed feel very hip-hop.

(Which is a pity, because in anthro classes I saw videos of the kind of dancing they could have been going for instead, and that would have been more interesting.)